Gentle readers, I apologize. News of this came out a few days ago and only now am I sharing with you.
This is interesting. The Kremlin published the transcript of what Putin supposedly said on his “Direct Line” show. There is no mention of him calling Ukraine “territories now called Ukraine” or “the territories which now belong to Ukraine”, so I cannot quickly verify exactly what he said. He referred to Ukraine 25 times. I am certain there is a little bit of selective editing going on.
According to Sputnik, these were his words:
“At this moment, the territories that are considered to be Ukraine, were just parts of Russia, and if the Ukrainian president says that he is off somewhere, Lermontov said about the whole Russia, including the territories called Ukraine at the moment. That’s why there is no need to patronize,” Putin said, answering a question if he had heard Poroshenko’s speech.
I did a search using the word “considered” and found this, Putin’s edited words in his official transcripts:
Further, at that point, the regions that are considered Ukraine today were Russia’s regions, and if the President of today’s Ukraine quotes Lermontov as saying that he is leaving for some other place, Lermontov referred to entire Russia, including the areas that today are known as Ukraine. So, there is nothing special to brag about here.
The transcripts were already translated from Russian to English.
A friend’s comment:
Most brazen Putin comment during annual phone-in was his labelling of Ukraine as “the territories now called Ukraine”, which is possibly the first time he has publicly stated that the regime neither recognises nor accepts Ukraine’s right to exist as a nation / culture / state, or put differently, Russia’s view that Ukraine is a wayward province of Russia – this has been claimed to have been said in various meetings many times, but never as brazenly as this in public. This statement confirms that Ukraine will have to be prepared to fight off a Russian invasion and Russian subversion for as long as Putin holds power, and possibly much longer.
He is actually reputed to have said things like this many many times in meetings, internal conferences, nationalist gatherings etc, but this seems to be the first time in a public interview, which might explain why they are retrospectively editing it!
With different interpretations of the same phrase, I am not certain what Putin actually said, what his intentions were, or if his intent was hostile to Ukraine. Absolutely it was the wrong choice of words. Absolutely they could easily be inciteful. Absolutely if I were Ukrainian I would be angry.
I am referring, of course, to the man who used to be the President of Russia, the late Vladimir Putin, dead of Polonium poisoning. Oops, edit that.
Vladimir Putin refers to ‘territories now called Ukraine’ in ominous comments during annual phone-in
Russian President heralds ‘common history’ with former Soviet state and says he ‘hopes this period in life and history of Ukraine and Ukrainian people will come to an end’
Vladimir Putin has referred to “the territories which now belong to Ukraine” in ominous comments during his annual phone-in.
The Russian President made several remarks about Ukraine, recent anti-government protests and his country’s relations with the United States, during A Direct Line With Putin.
“I hope at some time this period in the life and history of Ukraine and the Ukrainian people will come to an end,” Mr Putin said.
Mr Putin used the question and answer session to talk to voters about key issues ahead of next year’s presidential election, which he is expected to contest.
He went on to say how much he values the views of Ukranians who remember the “common history” uniting Russia and Ukraine. “We grasp it and we value it highly, believe me.”
Russia annexed Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula in 2014 and is supporting pro-Russia insurgents in eastern Ukraine, leading Western nations to place sanctions on Moscow.
“If it wasn’t for Crimea, other problems, they would have invented something else to deter Russia,” he said.
During the tightly choreographed marathon TV appearance, Mr Putin gave a rare glimpse into his private life, saying he has two grandchildren whose privacy he wants to respect, and even spoke to a man whose wife had given birth moments ago.
He described Ukranian nationalists as “swastika-brandishing loonies” and added the fathers of Ukranian nationalism believed the country should be a federal state.
“We have many friends in Ukraine,” he said, before going on to say the Ukranian nationalists “all believed Ukraine should be independent but it should also be a federal state.”
He added that “over-centralisation… would lead to domestic conflicts in Ukraine. This is what we have been witnessing.
“By the way, some of the defenders of the Ukrainian independence and the Ukrainian nationalism did not see Crimea as part of Ukraine.”
He said construction of a bridge to connect mainland Russia with Crimea is on schedule “and even slightly ahead of it”. It is meant to be operational by the end of next year.
During the four-hour show, Mr Putin accused his opponents of “abusing” and exploiting problems in Russia rather than offering a solution.
He said that while “street protests always emerge as part of democratic procedures,” they were “not being done to improve the situation in the country.”
He also said Russia’s campaign in Syria had allowed the military to test its state-of-the art weapons in real combat.
The experience allowed engineers to polish weapons designs and has given a “new quality” to the Russian military, he said.
Mr Putin also joked that Russia would offer asylum to former FBI director James Comey, who was fired by Donald Trump.
He said it was “very strange” the FBI official had leaked details of conversations with the US President and compared his actions to those of Edward Snowden.
The Russian President said his country was “ready for a constructive dialogue” with the US.
Mr Putin said Moscow and Washington could cooperate in efforts to prevent the proliferation of mass destruction weapons, including the North Korean nuclear and missile problem.
He said the two countries could also cooperate in dealing with global poverty and efforts to prevent climate change.
“As far as the flashpoints are concerned… there are positive examples of our cooperation. Syrian problem, Mid-Eastern problem on the whole… There are other flashpoints and we are very hopeful for the United States’ constructive role in the resolution of the Ukrainian crisis… We are ready for a constructive dialogue.”